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The Libertarian Statist

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Since the Tea Parties have been in full swing I have found myself distancing myself from other so-called “libertarians.” It seems that the GOP lite has taken the term and ran with it. I already had issues with the Objectivists in some areas but that is to be expected considering their matriarch detested the anarchist strand that I proudly embrace. The one area I find myself still in agreement with few libertarians would be some Austrian concepts of economic realities. The modern American libertarian has become a defender of the state reading their constitutions as religious text. I recently had a conversation with an individual who considered themselves “libertarian” the whole while telling me that Jesus wrote the constitution. (seriously) This person believed the constitution was inspired by God.

Statism seems to be infused with a vile blasphemous conservative devotion to the state by some cult like worship of culture and the preservation of their traditions of the laws of men. The so-called libertarians I am running into lately have embraced war, migrant-control, anti-abortion and a plethora of other state powers. I am failing to see how this is any opposition to government.

I went to a local Tea Party when I first heard of it. I thought that an anti-tax protest sounded wonderful. Just like the anti-war protests of the Bush years I thought that maybe the people were truly fed up with the state. All I found there were anti-democrats. I heard speakers condoning war and preaching against migrants. I was appalled at just how much government these people were embracing. It was held at a state memorial to war, Kansas City’s WWI memorial. This seemed to be a badge of pride almost as if they wanted to say with nationalist pride “look at the great wars we had won.” They worshiped at the idol that was built to memorialize mass murder by the state. I stood there wondering how many Egyptians once gathered under their god king Ramses feet rallying the slaughter of their neighboring countries.

Conservative talk show hosts spoke of the mighty GOP and their rise. This was nothing but angry conservatives mad at the other side of the state. As if the pro-war sentiment wasn’t enough I got an interesting insight of why some people were there from an old man. As people began to clear out I walked up to their little “Boston Harbor” which looked more like a plastic bath-tub filled with burst tea bags. It looked unsanitary. An old man was standing there and decided I needed to hear how mad he was. Was he mad about taxes? No. Was he mad about the massive spending on murder in the middle east? No. The old man just sat there and complained about “those damn Mexicans.”  I heard all about how they “need to go back home.”" I also got to hear how this was apparently some southern rednecks’ country and not the country of the “damn Mexicans.” I wanted to oppose taxation. I didn’t want to condone taxes to take the liberty of migrants, kill Muslims or oppress others.

This was my realization that the Tea Party was not a libertarian movement at all but simply angry Republicans. Then there was talk about the son of Ron Paul. They called him libertarian. I got excited. I began to look at him and was quickly disappointed. Here he was going on about “A strong national defense.” The guy was also embracing winning wars and blocking migration. What? Who’s liberty are these people concerned about? It was appalling. More and more so-called libertarians were coming out of the woodwork and it seemed all of them were nothing but GOP lite.

These libertarians began to preach to me about “the rule of law” and tell me that “we are a nation of laws.” What libertarianism is this they are following? It sure as hell isn’t Rothbard who would unashamedly oppose all government. Maybe it was Ronald Reagan. Some of the rhetoric was starting to sound like Joe McCarthy a little also. I heard a self-proclaimed libertarian tell me Joe McCarthy was a “great American.” What the hell was going on? Why even use the word libertarian if you are only going to defend the GOP party platform with it?

I began to question if I was even a libertarian anymore. If libertarian was this conservative nationalist movement then no I am not a libertarian. I will embrace the word I often attempted to not use, “anarchist.” The few I do agree with seemed to be focusing on just an anti-welfare concept. I detest this stance. As I said before I do not condone any government whatsoever, but if I did believe in government it would be one that took care of the needy and not the government that shoots us in the face. It seems that they are willing to stick with and even condone militarized police aggressively preying on the citizens as well as the massive slaughter around the world in order to end welfare. The logic here escapes me. If the coercive force of the state is abolished all welfare and other programs become voluntary thus ending any opposition one should have against it. These conservative libertarians still stand for the very power that enables the state.

Am I a libertarian? At times I would say yes. I base my philosophy on the libertarian non-aggression axiom. This is something many modern libertarians tend to never mention. They just talk about their constitutions, the law of the land they seem to embrace. What really makes that funny is that it is only used when it suits them. Even Ron Paul the great constitutional defender has spoken out against birthright citizenship. So apparently this constitution is not the all to end all they would like us to think, but simply a defense in arguments to defend the government providing the type of society they want to condone.

My belief tends to be one of mutualism for it seems that in a true free market one can not restrict voluntary communal interactions and syndicates. This leaves me jaded at the anti-socialist and anti-communist rhetoric of the right. At the same time I tend to be jaded by the anti-capitalist rhetoric of the left. There seems to be a completely polarized perspective which wishes to choose one over the other. I however am content with a pro-choice perspective on everything across the board that does not infringe on the libertarian non-aggression axiom. The initiation of force is what I oppose not how people wish to structure their economic models as long as it is non-coercively.

Oh, Uh-Merika you have complete devotion to that mass murder the state you so reverently worship. Oh you modern libertarians are nothing more than state apologists. How can you enter into an argument in defense of the government so often? That is what I keep running into. I will begin speaking to the so-called libertarians and they will defend government. If you have a habit of defending the state you may want to examine your views and perspective. The state has enough schools and guns to defend itself it does not need you.

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  • Ericdondero

    Libertarian = RepublicanRepublican = LibertarianYou, on the other hand equal some sort of asshole leftwing puke who doesn't know jackshit about libertarianism. Good riddance from our libertarian movement. We don't need excrement like you stinkin' up the place. You were never a libertarian anyway. So, why even pretend?Eric Dondero, PublisherLibertarianRepublican.net

  • Ericdondero

    Libertarian = Republican

    Republican = Libertarian

    You, on the other hand equal some sort of asshole leftwing puke who doesn’t know jackshit about libertarianism. Good riddance from our libertarian movement. We don’t need excrement like you stinkin’ up the place.

    You were never a libertarian anyway. So, why even pretend?

    Eric Dondero, Publisher
    LibertarianRepublican.net

    • http://twitter.com/scalpingelmo William Hinds

      Mr. Dondero,

      Your argument consist of faulty logic. If your formula truly expresses what you believe, why is there a need for two separate words? You are claiming in the most laconic and ostentatious way; All republicans are libertarians, and vice versa.

      This is incorrect. Even if you are referring to the Libertarian Party, you fail to reasonably demonstrate that you understand the complex issues that prevent libertarians from being republican and (again) vice versa. There is no need for me to even argue this, because it is your duty as someone who posted here, to demonstrate at least the most rudimentary knowledge of politics at large. You are so ill equipped for debate, that your very argument itself rapidly turned into acidic ad-hominem attacks against the author of this article.

      In the free market of ideas, your stall is dirty and lacking ANY wares. Yet there you stand, yelling and waxing idiotic while the whole world passes by your stall and mocks your very presence. So, why pretend to be a publisher of a website that is still DNS parked at GoDaddy? Why use your name when the words you use would better fit an anonymous coward, instead of a reasonable man capable of rational debate.

    • http://freepressonline.net/blogs/andrea-castillo Andrea Castillo

      A self-styled Grand Commissar of the One Libertarian Movement™? Apropos.

    • http://twitter.com/jckhewitt JC Hewitt

      Hey, I remember who *you* are!

      I’m ever-so-happy to *not be on the same side as you.

      Apparently, the libertarian movement consists of a fondness for ad hominem and leaking sensationalist tales to mainstream media publications to divide and conquer the many people interested in living in a free society.

      Psst! Your compromise-filled ideology is riddled with contradictions!

      By the way, is being anti-war still equivalent to being a Nazi?

      Does it ever bother you to construct an ideology based purely on what you think will get people elected and what will get the most dirty money funneled into your pockets?

    • http://www.marketmentat.com GT

      Sheer genius – who needs photos of flabby-armed glassy-eyed fat bush-pigs at an RNC convention when you’ve got this sort of plonker trawling the intertubes making Republitarians look like Freeptards?

      You’ve got the self-awarenesss of the average Israeli settler, my “Liberpublicans for Shrub” chum. You must have thought you were going to impress somebody – maybe CNN or Fox? They might let you fellate them again.

      Cheerio

      GT

  • http://twitter.com/scalpingelmo William Hinds

    Mr. Dondero,Your argument consist of faulty logic. If your formula truly expresses what you believe, why is there a need for two separate words? You are claiming in the most laconic and ostentatious way; All republicans are libertarians, and vice versa.This is incorrect. Even if you are referring to the Libertarian Party, you fail to reasonably demonstrate that you understand the complex issues that prevent libertarians from being republican and (again) vice versa. There is no need for me to even argue this, because it is your duty as someone who posted here, to demonstrate at least the most rudimentary knowledge of politics at large. You are so ill equipped for debate, that your very argument itself rapidly turned into acidic ad-hominem attacks against the author of this article.In the free market of ideas, your stall is dirty and lacking ANY wares. Yet there you stand, yelling and waxing idiotic while the whole world passes by your stall and mocks your very presence. So, why pretend to be a publisher of a website that is still DNS parked at GoDaddy? Why use your name when the words you use would better fit an anonymous coward, instead of a reasonable man capable of rational debate.

  • http://freepressonline.net/blogs/andrea-castillo Andrea Castillo

    A self-styled Grand Commissar of the One Libertarian Movement™? Apropos.

  • http://twitter.com/jckhewitt JC Hewitt

    Hey, I remember who *you* are!I'm ever-so-happy to *not be on the same side as you.Apparently, the libertarian movement consists of a fondness for ad hominem and leaking sensationalist tales to mainstream media publications to divide and conquer the many people interested in living in a free society.Psst! Your compromise-filled ideology is riddled with contradictions! By the way, is being anti-war still equivalent to being a Nazi?Does it ever bother you to construct an ideology based purely on what you think will get people elected and what will get the most dirty money funneled into your pockets?

  • MoMo

    I have to honestly wonder what is going through the minds of those who claim to be in defense of "freedom" and "liberty" but put at the foremost of their agenda an impenetrable border and the mass deportation of "brown" people.

  • http://www.gonzotimes.com/ PunkJohnnyCash

    Don't say the 'R' word. Apparently it hurts their feelings and they say that mentioning anything related to it 'discredits you' as a left-wing loon.No critical thinking here this is conservatism.

  • MoMo

    I have to honestly wonder what is going through the minds of those who claim to be in defense of “freedom” and “liberty” but put at the foremost of their agenda an impenetrable border and the mass deportation of “brown” people.

    • http://www.gonzotimes.com/ PunkJohnnyCash

      Don’t say the ‘R’ word. Apparently it hurts their feelings and they say that mentioning anything related to it ‘discredits you’ as a left-wing loon.

      No critical thinking here this is conservatism.

  • http://www.marketmentat.com GT

    Don't get too caught up nomenclature, PunkJohnny – as Shake'n'Bake once said, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.Likewise, the fact that some Republican goofballs have co-opted the 'libertarian' moniker does one thing – the thing that it was designed to do… degrade the 'brand' of libertarian.Having said "what's in a name', now a digression on sensible names for filks like us… I always refer to myself as 'akratist' or 'voluntaryist' rather than anarchist when talking to 'normals'. It has the side benefit of generating queries as to what the fuck an 'akratist' is. Plus, the fact that the 'akratist' label is not part o the mainswamp narrative, helps avoid people making the numptie-link that 'anarchy=chaos'.So now in the media-conditioned public psyche of Merk'n, you have the following taxonomy…"Libertarian (US) = Republican/Conservative Freeper fucktard (US)Anarchist=NihilistAkratist="Watchyoutalkin'bout, Willis?"And then the battle of ideas can be joined without a bunch of jelly-brained preconceptions about labels.CheerioGTPS – I seem to recall some survey done a few years back where a shitload of self-proclaimed 'conservatives' were shown to support every welfare state measure that was mentioned to them… and 65% of all respondents thought they were in the top income decile. So there's also the issue of widespread anosognosia to deal with as well.CheerioGT

  • http://www.marketmentat.com GT

    Sheer genius – who needs photos of flabby-armed glassy-eyed fat bush-pigs at an RNC convention when you've got this sort of plonker trawling the intertubes making Republitarians look like Freeptards?You've got the self-awarenesss of the average Israeli settler, my "Liberpublicans for Shrub" chum. You must have thought you were going to impress somebody – maybe CNN or Fox? They might let you fellate them again.CheerioGT

  • http://www.marketmentat.com GT

    Don’t get too caught up nomenclature, PunkJohnny – as Shake’n'Bake once said, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.Likewise, the fact that some Republican goofballs have co-opted the ‘libertarian’ moniker does one thing – the thing that it was designed to do… degrade the ‘brand’ of libertarian.Having said “what’s in a name”, now a digression on sensible names for folks like us… I always refer to myself as ‘akratist’ or ‘voluntaryist’ rather than anarchist when talking to ‘normals’. It has the side benefit of generating queries as to what the fuck an ‘akratist’ is. Plus, the fact that the ‘akratist’ label is not part o the mainswamp narrative, helps avoid people making the numptie-link that ‘anarchy=chaos’.So now in the media-conditioned public psyche of Merk’n, you have the following taxonomy…”Libertarian (US) = Republican/Conservative Freeper fucktard (US)Anarchist=NihilistAkratist=”Watchyoutalkin’bout, Willis?”And then the battle of ideas can be joined without a bunch of jelly-brained preconceptions about labels.CheerioGTPS – I seem to recall some survey done a few years back where a shitload of self-proclaimed ‘conservatives’ were shown to support every welfare state measure that was mentioned to them… and 65% of all respondents thought they were in the top income decile. So there’s also the issue of widespread anosognosia to deal with as well.CheerioGT

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