“Don’t you know that without a strong central committee to oversee production and government functions immediately after revolutions, they are doomed to fail? Romantic dreamers.” – Karl
- Kom-E Ron – All successful revolutions have started organically. Any successful society after revolution would have to develop along the same lines. All centralizations of power tend toward class society, which is why even after “successful” peoples revolutions occur, the forces of centralization begin to divide power.
- Shane Thayer – That’s interesting, because the failure of the Soviet Union was exactly that, a strong central committee to oversee production and Government functions. The Russian revolution was headed in a positive direction until the Bolsheviks came in and did exactly that. One central power is pretty much a capitalist business structure. One President, board, CEO etc.. overseeing all production. Sounds more like someone is trying to apply capitalist business structure to everything in our lives.
- Kristian Poul Herkild - It is rather odd that some people believe a strong central government is required to protect the revolution against a strong central government. So far it has failed miserably. The bolshevik “revolution” in Russia was basically a counter coup. While the anarchists and various non-bolshevik socialists were busy taking over soviets and factories and what not, the bolshevik were busy taking over the state apparatus. As far as I can tell the success of a revolution depends on removing all remnants of the state apparatus rather than taking over said apparatus.
- Joe The Plunger – It seems to me there’s always a ‘turn a blind eye scenario’ of some shape or form taking place, forcing the too little too late for remedy any situation, so revolution ends up been inevitable in most cases…
- Resistance Transmissions – …implying they are ‘all’ doomed to fail? Based on the fact that ‘all’ revolutions are chaotic, violent, and shortsighted (surround the castle behead the king and… replace him with another king)? History may support this claim but that doesn’t mean history is 100% doomed to repeat itself till the end of time! Some recent revolutions have been rebirths of old revolutions and some nearly spontaneous but quickly you see influences trying to confused, manipulated and take advantage of the movement so that the end result is ‘similar shit different pile’… rarely are the rules rewritten. This is just begging for continued rebirth of the same revolution or maybe better >a new approach to it. The revolution itself is evolving, its a whole new game now. We can see what is happening around the world and learn from it. The force of a global revolution could remove the chains that keep dragging us down, back into the same rut. Granted the people holding power now aren’t just gonna give it away, but maybe we don’t need to force it from their hands. Maybe we don’t need to bow down to the idea that there needs to be a ‘strong’ centralized power structure playing any transitional role after a revolt. Really, how hard would it be exactly… running the public schools, mail, roads, judicial systems, etc. and are those institutions even run in a way that best serves us… should we scrap em’ (~yes) and start over? All we really need is formula for the immediate transition and the will of the people supporting it. Our revolts so far haven’t necessarily resulted in our freedom but progress is being made. Doomed to fail… I don’t think so. Romantic dreamers maybe… but just because these are tough times for dreamers doesn’t mean dreamers should be scoffed at, we are trying to fuck shit up as fast as we can. To have no dream is to be defeated and truly doomed.
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